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Title: Racist christmas present
Post by: cthulhu303 on December 24, 2009, 08:44:57 PM
Do I have your attention? Follow the link (http://www.discogs.com/groups/topic/202017), then. :-)
Title: Re: Racist christmas present
Post by: Dr.Drane on December 24, 2009, 08:55:30 PM
Ik ben hier uiteraard enkel komen checken of het niet derover ging om dan indien nodig de autoriteiten hier op de hoogte te stellen.  :whistle:
Title: Re: Racist christmas present
Post by: cthulhu303 on December 24, 2009, 10:04:23 PM
lulz
Title: Re: Racist christmas present
Post by: dustrickx on December 24, 2009, 10:11:29 PM
TRACKLISTS?
Title: Re: Racist christmas present
Post by: cthulhu303 on December 24, 2009, 10:12:15 PM
Wot, you don't like surprises?
Title: Re: Racist christmas present
Post by: dark_ikkeuh on December 24, 2009, 10:16:41 PM
eens checken

Post Merge: December 24, 2009, 10:32:50 PM
bezig me tcho tcho aant luisteren
echt zalig
breakcore as it shoudl be :slayer:
Title: Re: Racist christmas present
Post by: dustrickx on December 24, 2009, 10:43:05 PM
Wot, you don't like surprises?

just wanna know if it's worth the download ;-)
if it's all records I have it's no suprise and if it's records I don't have I wanna know who it is...
as a dj u owe this to the creators imo...

Title: Re: Racist christmas present
Post by: dark_ikkeuh on December 24, 2009, 10:56:58 PM
kbent hier allemaal ant downloaden en op mp3 aant zetten
morgen eens aandachtig luisteren :yeah:
Title: Re: Racist christmas present
Post by: cthulhu303 on December 25, 2009, 07:05:44 AM
just wanna know if it's worth the download ;-)
if it's all records I have it's no suprise and if it's records I don't have I wanna know who it is...
as a dj u owe this to the creators imo...
That's like, your opinion, man. If you want to know what's in it to know whether you'll download or not, don't bother.
Title: Re: Racist christmas present
Post by: dark_ikkeuh on December 25, 2009, 11:33:25 AM
great mixes , checked all of them this morning :yeah:
thats the music i wanna hear on a party :slayer:
Title: Re: Racist christmas present
Post by: cthulhu303 on December 25, 2009, 01:31:23 PM
Bedankt, dark_ikkeuh!
Title: Re: Racist christmas present
Post by: BAMBAMBAM! on December 26, 2009, 01:23:32 PM

as a dj u owe this to the creators imo...
That's like, your opinion, man. If you want to know what's in it to know whether you'll download or not, don't bother.

heuuu ... that's like, just the way it is dude !
wtf are u thinking ? "hey ima put this online & say it's my work ? "
 no its not !  u  do have to mention wich material  u used !

 :cheersad: :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Racist christmas present
Post by: mindgame on December 26, 2009, 02:33:08 PM
That's like, your opinion, man.

The Big Lebowski? :biggrin:
Title: Re: Racist christmas present
Post by: Hendrok on December 26, 2009, 06:42:30 PM
"hey ima put this online & say it's my work ? "
 no its not !  u  do have to mention wich material  u used !
i don't see where he claims the tracks are his...  :think:
Title: Re: Racist christmas present
Post by: dustrickx on December 26, 2009, 07:02:56 PM
as a dj u are a for a greater part a selectah and a promotah than an artist or a creator,
if u forget to mention what u select and promote there's little use in being a dj...
it's little respect to people putting work in composition to mention there name and to the labels putting effort in releasing to mention the title of the release...
for me personally you don't have to do it but i'm not going to download or listen to mixes with vague titles and no information or references, there's simply no use in that for me...



Title: Re: Racist christmas present
Post by: BAMBAMBAM! on December 26, 2009, 07:08:15 PM
"hey ima put this online & say it's my work ? "
 no its not !  u  do have to mention wich material  u used !
i don't see where he claims the tracks are his...  :think:

refusing to give a tracklist is pretty much the same to me , it pretty much  means " well fuck the material , i did the mix & it's all u need to know ..."

& btw he does put this online saying it's his work ... many people can't make the difference between dj's & producers for shit & will think he created the whole damn shizzl !

do i need to explain further or do u start to realise u made a stupid comment ?  :razz:
Title: Re: Racist christmas present
Post by: brambo on December 26, 2009, 07:27:02 PM
and now some music
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUoc6Wv72cs# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUoc6Wv72cs#)
Title: Re: Racist christmas present
Post by: Hendrok on December 26, 2009, 08:17:53 PM
do i need to explain further or do u start to realise u made a stupid comment ?  :razz:
i make stupid comments all the time, it's kind of my trademark  :respect:

and for me a tracklist is not a must have. with TL's, people tend to make a judgement before they listened to the mix itself. imo it's up to the dj itself to make the choice whether he posts a TL or not

and other ppl have already posted mixes without TL's, why is this one such a problem all of a sudden?
Title: Re: Racist christmas present
Post by: cthulhu303 on December 26, 2009, 09:28:20 PM
with TL's, people tend to make a judgement before they listened to the mix itself.
Spot on.
I'm not gonna have this tired conversation for the bazillionth time with either dustrickx, bananam or anyone else on here. If you don't want to open a christmas present without knowing what's in it, then just don't download. And don't school me on how to promote artists or how such and such should behave; that's plain laughable. :-)
Title: Re: Racist christmas present
Post by: dustrickx on December 26, 2009, 09:45:45 PM
it's no discussion, no tl, no download, no listen no feedback, no promo, no favors, it's as simple as that ;-)
to me you can do whatever you want and you don't need to put an effort in a decent tracklists but it's the only way a mix can be usefull IMO why would i download something i may have listened to for a billion times? if there was anythin' in there that could grab my attention i'd download it...

Title: Re: Racist christmas present
Post by: cthulhu303 on December 26, 2009, 10:07:50 PM
I'll tell you one third and final time, then: don't download it. I'm not your personal jukebox and if that bothers you, it's perfectly fine for me. You are making a big fuss out of it, not me.
Title: Re: Racist christmas present
Post by: osana twuk on December 26, 2009, 11:43:47 PM
it's no discussion, no tl, no download, no listen no feedback, no promo, no favors, it's as simple as that ;-)
to me you can do whatever you want and you don't need to put an effort in a decent tracklists but it's the only way a mix can be usefull IMO why would i download something i may have listened to for a billion times? if there was anythin' in there that could grab my attention i'd download it...



yeah, but the WAY that it is mixed can be so different from one dj to another and can be very suprising or cool too, if not, deejays would have stayed stucked at the weddingsshizzle, i thought YOU, as dj, should know that or think that way too, its not only the selection that matters
Title: Re: Racist christmas present
Post by: BAMBAMBAM! on December 27, 2009, 03:57:11 AM
do i need to explain further or do u start to realise u made a stupid comment ?  :razz:
i make stupid comments all the time, it's kind of my trademark  :respect:

and for me a tracklist is not a must have. with TL's, people tend to make a judgement before they listened to the mix itself. imo it's up to the dj itself to make the choice whether he posts a TL or not

and other ppl have already posted mixes without TL's, why is this one such a problem all of a sudden?

itz not about this one specially and i'm not talking about making a selection of wich mix has cool tracks in it , it 's freaking respect towards the artists , u're using their tracks then make a fuckin tracklist , it's the abc ...
& why the hell is discussing a subject a problem ?

last time i checked forums were a good place to debate stuff but yeah i might be wrong  :mrgreen:

Post Merge: December 27, 2009, 06:01:45 AM
with TL's, people tend to make a judgement before they listened to the mix itself.
Spot on.
I'm not gonna have this tired conversation for the bazillionth time with either dustrickx, bananam or anyone else on here. If you don't want to open a christmas present without knowing what's in it, then just don't download. And don't school me on how to promote artists or how such and such should behave; that's plain laughable. :-)

oh u're such a rebel & a cool guy , i think i'm getting turned on , if u don't get the notion of respect for the intellectual property we don't have much to discuss indeed

btw the name's bambambam! but u can get the bananam up the pooper whenever u want esse !


never said u had to put a tl online here or tattoo it on yer penis , u could include one that only people downloading the damn mix could see for all i care ...



Title: Re: Racist christmas present
Post by: cthulhu303 on December 27, 2009, 08:35:05 AM
where is the time we had to move mountains to find the title of a track in some dope mix.  A quest of months to find out what it was, and then one day you're in the shop with that record in your hands and a big smile on your face. that's what it was all about.

If you want track titles, then listen to the freaking mix.
If there's a track you really like and you don't know the title, just make a sample and post it on the forum, you have the communication channels to do it. ACT, DON'T CRY.

No one wants to do efforts any more these days, it's one of the reasons why there's so much crap dj's around. just buying "the cool records" isn't enough to be a decent dj.

Suppose he gives you the tracklist, and it containst 95% tracks that you already have. I really doubt it that you will download the mix for that 1 or 2 tracks that you don't know.
A shame, 'cause you might get to know a new artist.

Cthulhu is a dj with a history, I'd be surprised if there's nothing in this mix that you don't know yet.

Hell, if you did the effort of listening to his mix and send him a mail what track you want to know, may be he'd just answer your question.

For the record: I'm not saying you (dust &bambambam) are crap dj's/artists. I don't know you enough for that. I'm speaking in general terms.
QFE

(Although tbh, now they've insulted me, I'm not sure I'd answer ;) )
Title: Re: Racist christmas present
Post by: brambo on December 27, 2009, 09:25:36 AM
CELL NAG TEAM :slayer:

I totally agree with Thomas btw...
Title: Re: Racist christmas present
Post by: ztran on December 27, 2009, 09:48:19 AM
+ 1
verwende nesten precies
Title: Re: Racist christmas present
Post by: BAMBAMBAM! on December 27, 2009, 02:04:22 PM
omg u guys are really that slow ? i don't care about knowing wich track is in that mix i didn't & won't download anyway , where is the time when people understood that working on something is worth recognition ?
so i could take the mix here ,wipe out everything about who made it  & put it around on another forum & u tell me it won't be lame ? how the hell can u expect any dj to have history if nobody ever mention them ?

u guys are such cool trackhunters that u don't even care about the people who make those great tracks ?  way kool really !

seriously ...


& btw i didn't start to be insulting & i would really love to discuss this next time i see u  :mrgreen:


edit:  even the creators of south park hand out  explanations on the stuff that gave them ideas , movies lists etc ... i really think it is a must n not everybody goes to vinyl shops & stuff , i don't even own a turntable for that matter , it's really not about picking up tracks for mixing em myself or whatever , it's just about tpeople getting what comes to them !
Title: Re: Racist christmas present
Post by: dubflakes on December 27, 2009, 02:18:18 PM
Ofcourse you should respect the people making it, without people making those tracks there wouldn't be any djs. But if you're not willing to post a TL, just mention the artists somewhere, So people can continue their search for tracks and parts in your mix and at the same time you show some love for the people that supplied tracks for your mixes.

I have downloaded them all and really enjoyed listening :mrgreen:
bigup really, hope there's more :mrgreen: 
Title: Re: Racist christmas present
Post by: kros on December 27, 2009, 03:52:54 PM
Wot, you don't like surprises?

just wanna know if it's worth the download ;-)
if it's all records I have it's no suprise and if it's records I don't have I wanna know who it is...
as a dj u owe this to the creators imo...




first of all: every mix of cthulhu is worth the download as he's simply one of the best dj's in belgium

but for once i have to agree with dustrix on this one

i think tracklists are necessary and good

i mean why not?

some aciddj's even used to put acidstickers or blank stickers over the center of the record so you cant see from who it is or which label etc when they are playin it

totally ruining the artwork of the record for starters...

not saying which track it is is kinda selfish and not polite... and disrespecting the producer of the track

i mean if i would make music i would be very fuckin pissed if someone uses my tracks and doesnt wanna say from who it is

makes a lot of sense to me

anyway, on the other hand i already asked for track id's regarding cthulhu's mixes and he immediately answered me

i also do agree with the fact that not a lot of people make lots of efforts lately
they're too happy with it way too early, and that gives a lot of crap

but thats mainly for producers not for dj's and i dont see a good link with the tracklist or not discussion

its not that if you know the name of the record that you have the record, you still have some hunting to do innit?
Title: Re: Racist christmas present
Post by: BAMBAMBAM! on December 27, 2009, 04:20:15 PM
BAMBAMBAM!

he already bought the record to support the artist, so he did his "supporting job".

soit, tskijnt dak moe blokn.

whatever man , u just don't get it , as kros said just try & produce a track that someone 'll use without mentioning it's urz , we'll see how u like it ...

not even talking about my case , don't really think Cthulhu ever uses any track of mine anyway

still the fact is there , u gotta give out your sources one way or another !



Post Merge: December 27, 2009, 05:22:55 PM

first of all: every mix of cthulhu is worth the download as he's simply one of the best dj's in belgium


i be on smallband & i be broke , cut me some slack ... :biggrin:
Title: Re: Racist christmas present
Post by: kros on December 27, 2009, 04:59:38 PM
by the way tomaz, i remember giving you lots and lots of track ID's and you buying almost everything

Title: Re: Racist christmas present
Post by: kros on December 27, 2009, 05:37:38 PM
ok i get your point and agree with almost everything
except that im not a perfect dj (although i consider govocal as my  perfect homemade mix)
and fuck royalty issues, if i buy the record then its my record i do whatever i want with it, im certainly not gonna pay again if i promote their tracks on mix cd, even if i would ask money for it
i would probably mail them about it and if they dont like it well then i dont use theyre tracks
well yeah except if that track really needs to be on that mix so yeah, fuck it


and i was talking about lives in stead of deejays becuz lots of gigs i attend lately has more lives then deejays (totally different then in the 90's)
so if someone shows up to play records i actually give him a lot of credit just for the fact that he buys records and trying to do his thing, even if his mixes are bad
becuz i think its more difficult standing there then a standard laptop live
its not if you can mix some hits at home that you can do it at a gig (all dj's have been there)
thats when experience and nerve control comes in

but i also get youre point about that one and youre right im kinda old fashionned as well about lots of things


anyway, im gonna download this mix lol

Post Merge: December 27, 2009, 05:42:17 PM
   
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Do I have your attention? Follow the link, then. :-)


actually that alone deserves a download without tracklisting
certainly if you follow da link
Title: Re: Racist christmas present
Post by: brambo on December 27, 2009, 06:07:09 PM
my god you guys are still busy discussing this :mrgreen: nice nice :P

look if somebody wants to make a tracklist that's cool... people can learn from it

if somebody doesn't want to make a tracklist that's cool too... people can just enjoy the set

 :hippy:
Title: Re: Racist christmas present
Post by: dustrickx on December 27, 2009, 07:05:02 PM
i'm not saying a djset doesn't add to the value of the records,
but this added value is much more clear when the seperate tracks are mentioned, no?
the number of tracks, the selection of artists, labels, ... all add to the artistic value of a mix
if u don't add this information the mix isn't worth much IMO so idd I don't download it :)
it's ok if u don't care but i'm sure  a lot of people have my oppinion on this one so it's not me personally but a group of people that wil not enjoy ur set that otherwise would...
if u wouldn't care about this virtual audience you wouldn't upload sets...

Title: Re: Racist christmas present
Post by: dark_ikkeuh on December 27, 2009, 08:13:04 PM
just download it, you wont regret :hippy: :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Racist christmas present
Post by: BAMBAMBAM! on December 27, 2009, 09:59:02 PM
ok i get your point and agree with almost everything
except that im not a perfect dj (although i consider govocal as my  perfect homemade mix)
and fuck royalty issues, if i buy the record then its my record i do whatever i want with it, im certainly not gonna pay again if i promote their tracks on mix cd, even if i would ask money for it
i would probably mail them about it and if they dont like it well then i dont use theyre tracks
well yeah except if that track really needs to be on that mix so yeah, fuck it


actually my point is that a lot (& i mean A LOT) of producers don't get royalties what so ever , couple of vinyls when they're released maybe a couple of bucks for the release party & that's it .
the recognition is pretty much all u get & i think people cannot take that from the artists . i'm not saying u should pay more cash just because u made a cd mix , u paid those vinyls they're urz & they're meant to be played , these are facts ! ^^




Post Merge: December 28, 2009, 12:08:16 AM


if somebody doesn't want to make a tracklist that's cool too...



no! :razz: :biggrin: :mrgreen: :lol:

Post Merge: December 27, 2009, 11:13:07 PM
my god you guys are still busy discussing this :mrgreen: nice nice :P

 :hippy:

tzal wel zijn , why would u run a forum if it's not to have discussion & stuff to keep it a live forum ?  :think:
Title: Re: Racist christmas present
Post by: brambo on December 28, 2009, 08:13:15 AM
I did say nice nice :P

I understand your and dustrickx opinion... ;) but I also understand Cuthulhu's action or better non-action ;)

Title: Re: Racist christmas present
Post by: cthulhu303 on December 29, 2009, 08:32:05 AM
Wow, a whole discussion started. Let the enthusiasm flow.
Thanks to those who took the effort to download and listen; hope you got something rewarding out of it.
Title: Re: Racist christmas present
Post by: Slash on December 30, 2009, 10:08:29 PM
 :wow: :wow:

net eens allemaal beluisterd, stuk voor stuk vette sets!

 :respect:
Title: Re: Racist christmas present
Post by: cthulhu303 on January 02, 2010, 11:17:51 AM
Tsjiers, Slash.
Title: Re: Racist christmas present
Post by: kros on January 03, 2010, 03:59:55 PM
ben bezig aan tcho-tcho

petje af

Title: Re: Racist christmas present
Post by: cthulhu303 on January 04, 2010, 10:40:00 AM
Bedankt, maat.
Title: Re: Racist christmas present
Post by: kros on January 05, 2010, 04:39:48 PM
checked them all


really thumbs up


really like the acidcore breakcore etc mixture

its a shame you really should be more booked


gonna listen to this sets again in the future..

not a single boring track
and a lot of bangin acid tracks that i dont have lol
Title: Re: Racist christmas present
Post by: BLUEBERRY on January 06, 2010, 12:06:49 AM
keer kijken
Title: Re: Racist christmas present
Post by: cthulhu303 on January 07, 2010, 10:09:47 AM
its a shame you really should be more booked
I gladly accept your request to be a resident at your events. :mrgreen:
not a single boring track
and a lot of bangin acid tracks that i dont have lol
But I hope so. :-)

Thanks again to all who have paid it a listen.
Title: Re: Racist christmas present
Post by: Bungholio on January 07, 2010, 01:48:01 PM
zeer onderhoudende mixkes
zou anders ook wel nie misstaan als afsluiter op een rtf feest ofzo ;)
Title: Re: Racist christmas present
Post by: dskjt on January 07, 2010, 03:13:51 PM
thanks!
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